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BravoNation - exclusive invite for Yahoo! 360 users!
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Hey everyone! It's been a while since I've posted on Yahoo! 360. I mentioned a couple of posts ago that I had worked on Yahoo! 360, left to take a job in Canada, and then left that job to come back to Yahoo! again. Well, I can now officially talk about the product I worked on - BravoNation - and I want to give you Yahoo! 360 users a special invitation.

What is BravoNation, you ask? BravoNation is an achievements community website and API platform. Andy Baio has written up a pretty in-depth overview of the system, and Gordon talks about it a little bit on Yahoo! Next* as well, so you can read all about it there.

For those of you that aren’t so much techies as you are gamers, think “Xbox Live Achievements, but for community websites.” (For those of you that aren’t gamers, think “the bastard child you get when you cross a thank you e-card with Pokemon or Magic: The Gathering,” or something like that.) If it sounds like there’s a lot of gaming elements in the product, it’s because there is - most of the team are huge gamers, and we adopted a lot of gaming principles into the application. It’ll be interesting to see what crosses over well and what doesn’t. It’ll also be interesting how the product - and our roles - will change and evolve over the next couple of months. And by “interesting,” I mean a mix between “exciting” and “petrifying.”

So basically, because the product is so new, we're going to need a lot of people to help test the product out as well as give feedback and constructive criticism. If you'd like a special inviation to BravoNation, send an e-mail invitation to ehsiung@yahoo-inc.com. Thanks!
Thursday January 17, 2008 - 12:55pm (PST) Permanent Link | 5 Comments
Yahoo! Mash
Hey guys, it's me coming out of the woodwork again. (So, here's a summary from me in the past six months: I worked on Yahoo! 360, I left Yahoo! 360 to work at a start-up in Canada. The start-up in Canada didn't do so well, so I moved back home. Parents made me want to cut myself, so I moved to San Francisco and started another job within Yahoo!, this time in San Francisco at the previously mentioned Brickhouse. So, no, I did not work on Mash.)

Before I start running my mouth like I'm wonton to do, I'm going to write the following disclaimers: All the opinions are mine and mine only, although I have a TON of insight to Yahoo! 360. Mash, notsomuch, although I am friends with everyone on the team AND Will A. from the blogs was my former manager when I worked on Yahoo! Photos, years and years and years ago. Jesus, have I seriously worked here for years? I guess I have.

I'm also going to write a bunch of assumptions, stuff I don't know 100% about, and throw in some opinion too. Because the current Mosh team doesn't know about this, if they ask me to take some stuff down, I'm going to, because hey, I'm still good friends with my old team, even if we're not on the same team anymore.

So, Yahoo! Mash.

Basically, Yahoo! Mash is similar to MySpace and Facebook where you make a profile page for yourself, but a little different where you can actually edit the pages of your friends (but you can change the settings on whether you want to do this or not.) You can also install "modules," where people can make little applications and you can install them directly on your page. It's similar to applications on Facebook, not so much on MySpace. It's a little buggy right now, but I can't hate on that, since the first week Yahoo! 360 was live was a trainwreck and a half.

What Mash doesn't have is a blog. I'm a big fan of blogging, obviously. A big part of the 360 community - the early one, anyway - is that people communicated to each other through their blogs. I'm not sure how they're going to address that - hey, it's not my job to say anyway - but if I were a betting man, I'd suppose that that is the reason why they haven't killed Yahoo! 360 and replaced it with Yahoo! Mash. People would get pretty pissed, right?

A lot of people are asking whether Mash is going to replace Yahoo! 360. And to be honest - I don't know. (The fact that 360 AND Mash still exists and they didn't just shut down 360 immediately say a lot.) I WILL tell you that the entire team on Yahoo! 360 worked on Yahoo! Mash, which is why you haven't seen updates from 360 in a couple of months. Truth of the matter is that it wasn't a popular product by Yahoo! standards, especially compared to MySpace and Facebook. The Wall Street Journal once called Yahoo! 360 "a failure." (That was a pretty crummy day at work.) And you know who reads the Wall Street Journal? Executives. Long story short, a drastic change was needed, and here you are, Yahoo! Mash.

I could write a novel on why I think 360 isn't as successful as it could be or could have been, so all I have to say is this: I hope Yahoo! Mash, or hell, even Yahoo! 360, gets the promotion it needs and deserves. I always envied how much attention Yahoo! Answers got - huge promotions at New York Times Square, a big link on yahoo.com. I hope they get smarter tying information with other information you have throughout Yahoo!. I hope something, whether it be 360 or Mash, becomes a true platform, rather than a site where you just make a wacky page for a hot second, and then go somewhere else.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a web developer that makes twelve dollars an hour. ;)

PS: Yahoo! Mash was originally going to be called Yahoo! Mosh, but it turns out someone came out with a social network site called Mosh a month or two before they released.

PPS: If you want an invite, send me a message with an e-mail address to send an invite to.
Monday September 17, 2007 - 01:09pm (PDT) Permanent Link | 30 Comments
The monthly check-in: Brickhouse
Welcome to the Brickhouse

So yeah, the rumors, if you haven't heard already, are true - I'm back at Yahoo!. And because some people may or may not be curious - I'm not working at Yahoo! 360. Nothing against the crew at Yahoo! 360, of course - even when all the job drama I've been going through regarding the Canadian company was going down, I would still swing by the old stomping grounds, saying hello and such. (I can't really say much more additionally regarding 360; just know they are NOT sitting at their desks bored, filing their nails or playing solitaire or Minesweeper. Not that I was aware of, anyway.)

Where I AM is at this group called Brickhouse, located in San Francisco - about a 45 minute drive north of the Sunnyvale offices. Yep, I'm in the city. I'm reminded that I'm in the city, because I just heard 15 cars honking at each other and homeless people talking to themselves on the way to getting some coffee. All I need is a vintage t-shirt for $250.

So what's Brickhouse - hmmm. The easiest way to explain is that it's a group that is trying to create new stuff; stuff you wouldn't necessarily expect from Yahoo!. In the Bay Area, there are a lot of tech-startups; the idea is that being in an environment that is more friendly to creating new stuff, you'll actually get to do so. And sure, a couple of the ideas that our group comes up with may or may not be for everyone, and some of them might not even do too well, but the hope is that we'll be thinking of new, different, cutting-edge stuff. It's an experimental, risky endeavour, but seriously - I just spent the last three months at a food start-up in CANADA, of all places. Somehow, I think I'll be okay.

Wednesday June 27, 2007 - 05:34pm (PDT) Permanent Link | 11 Comments
The Monthly Check-in
And, I quit the job in Canada and am back in California permanently. More to come later. Maybe somewhere that isn't as public.
Tuesday May 8, 2007 - 11:04am (PDT) Permanent Link | 19 Comments
The Monthly Check-In
Remember me? For some reason or another, you are reading this from your home page because you added me. I used to work on Yahoo! 360, slaved over code that helped you blog about your recent breakup, and I sometimes blogged on the Product Blog. Then I left the same confines of the internet to do the batshit insane; give everything up and move to Canada.

This is my monthly check-in.

So, I kinda lied: I didn't exactly "move" to Canada, to everyones surprise including myself. It's a start-up, and as you know, start-ups don't have a lot of cash, so here I am still based in California and travel up for weeks at a time. Right now I'm in Canada staying in the basement of my bosses house, since they essentially work from their own house. It makes it sound like I'm the wacky downstairs neighbor from a bizarre Canadian sit-com, but the basement is a detached guesthouse that has been converted to office space, so I'm really living in a house that turned into an office that turned into a house again.

Tomorrow is Good Friday. Apparently Canadians celebrate Good Friday and don't come to work. My flight back to California is tomorrow night. Ooops.

I work for a food website. You should create a membership account. I mention it often because unlike Yahoo!, if a property doesn't do well it can be repurposed and people can transfer internally to other groups inside Yahoo!. If this website doesn't do well, I lose my job and permanently stay in California, where my parents move in.

It's been very interesting working for a boss who is a chef with no previous tech experience, working for a tech company. A lot of learning experiences for everyone. Does that sound vague enough for ya? Good. Other than that... I'm doing okay. Learning social media marketing. Learning Ruby on Rails. Learning to eat alone for dinner. Learning a lot, really.

PS - Happy 2-year Anniversary, 360. I wax poetic, sometimes.
Thursday April 5, 2007 - 07:45pm (PDT) Permanent Link | 16 Comments

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