Thinking in circles for the amusement of others...
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I've decided that blog comments are an interesting monster. Right away I'll discount the ones where someone tosses their manners out the window so they can spew all manners of toxic verbiage without the fear that comes with face to face confrontation. Thankfully I've never had to deal with this, but it's actually pretty easy...virtual fisticuffs! Um, no, wait. What I meant to say is that such comments are easily remedied using the delete key.
Which leaves, in my mind anyway, three basic categories of blog comment:
The ones that make me chuckle the most, however, are the ones where the reader says something like, "Why do you just talk about yourself all the time." I have seen this happen, but thankfully no one has ever used it on me. If they did I'd be, like, "It's a blog. That's more or less the purpose of the whole thing. I get to talk about whatever I want to, especially myself."
Out in the real world, I really do make an effort to remember that life is not all about me. It's good to share, and get along, and get over myself...helps me to be a productive citizen and all that.
Inside my blog though...is one of the few places where it is completely OK to hog the spotlight, upstage whomever I can, and make everything all about me. Which of course brings me to tonight's topic...
...ME!
So I’ve been “tagged” and it goes something like this:
1. Post these rules before you give the facts.
2. List eight (8) facts about yourself.
3. At the end of your post, choose (tag) someone and list their name (linking to their page.)
4. Leave them a comment on their blog letting them know they’ve been tagged!”
I did something like this a while back, but this time I was actually tagged by a real person. Well, he tagged me virtually; he didn't physically walk up and tag me. But I'm almost certain he really exists in a land far, far away.
Here are my 8 things--
REVISED: 18 Sept, 2007--OK, now I am more rested and can think of things about myself that are not related to the human body and its functions.
Hmmm, who's next?? How about Amber!
I was thinking more about what would happen if I became marooned on an island with Joel Osteen. The problem is not that all we would have to talk about are blessings and prosperity. Quite the opposite, actually. We would probably talk about so much, and come to know each other so well that we would identify with each other quite a bit (that is, if one of us didn't kill the other for food)...and I'd probably think that Joel Osteen is a really neat guy. Kind of like when you go to someone's funeral, and in hearing so many stories about them you realize, "Wow, (s)he led an extraordinary life." And then over time, you realize that everyone leads an extraordinary life, it's just that it's not always apparent until you see the collective stories, woven together to create the broader picture. The tapestry of life, if you will. <gag>
Saying I hesitate to criticize someone too harshly because I might find myself stranded on a desert island with them someday is, admittedly, completely crazy. And besides, the argument breaks down when I consider that if this scenario were to amazingly occur, I would't really be stranded with "Joel Osteen, great speaker." Rather, I'd be stranded with "Joel Osteen, stranded man," whom I really hope knows "How to make fire" and "How to kill and clean wild game." We could debate about positive thinking and expecting God's blessing all day, but when it comes down to it we'd better gather some firewood and try to rig a up shelter or we're likely dead.
But anyway...
See Part I for the prequel to this.
Really though, what got me thinking about all of this was a post iMonk did on Joel Osteen. It is worth reading for no other reason than the blinking graphic of Osteen's newest book cover. I should clarify--the whole graphic doesn't blink; Osteen's eyes blink within the graphic. Creepy.
iMonk's primary motivation with this particular post was to criticize CBD for promoting Osteen's newest book, but the comments and discussion expanded quite a bit from that. If I understand iMonk correctly, his concern is that Osteen is at best a warm-fuzzy motivational speaker and at worst a dangerous heretic, but either way his 'preaching' is not grounded in scripture. From what I've seen of Osteen I tend to think the former. Here is this guy I've never met, and have actually viewed very little, so I can't talk about him with much experience or authority. Although I did go to his website. And his church's website. Lotsa nepotism there. But anyway.
Osteen’s supporters’ comments range from “I go to his church, you don’t even know him” to “I go to his church, you don’t even know him.” At least that was my impression. To be more specific, some said that those who cram into Houston's former Compaq Center weekly experience sermons that are much more diverse and in-depth than what the public sees of the “Your best life” and other equally-positive messages. But then again, others said that no, Osteen’s messages are pretty much variations on the same principle. And finally, the most indignant protesters argued that, in this world of negativity, they go to Osteen for the positive and uplifting messages, and the rest of us need to step back and let them remain positive and uplifted.
Here’s the thing—there’s nothing wrong with positive and uplifting. Obviously there are many, many people who feel helped by Osteen’s messages and I really can’t discount their experience and say, “No you’re wrong.” It’s just that, as a pastor, Osteen's primary purpose (one would think) is telling people about Jesus, and Jesus is about so much more than “positive and uplifting.”
Let me offer up the idea that often it's profound unhappiness that woos us to God. I firmly believe that what God wants for us, way more than our happiness, is a deep and intimate relationship with him. True, most of us go through periods where we get both, but the danger I see with Osteen is that in helping some people to feel better, he is dulling their awareness of their need for Christ.
A friend of mine said it this way: “…A lot can be learned on how to motivate people through public speaking…but from a biblical perspective, this guy's got nothing. It is sad. He has such a big audience. So many people truly needing the depths of what Jesus can provide and he instead waters down everything.” It's not just that blessings and prosperity are possible because of Christ, but that Christ himself IS the blessing. Or as so many others have said, Jesus is not a means to an end; Jesus is the end.I could go on, but I’m not saying anything new. My own issues with Osteen are not going to prevent thousands of people from flocking to his fluffy, feel-good broadcasts. When it boils down to it, I don’t follow Osteen because his approach simply doesn’t resonate with me. Nor does Rick Warren’s or John Eldredge’s (even though it used to). Could be a difference in personality, or a matter of where I’m at in life, or the fact that God uses all sorts of people and methods when it comes to speaking to folks.
There’s a tricky balance, though. I once found a website where a guy listed every thinkable Christian author, leader, or other influential person. And along with each person he listed their character flaws, errors in reasoning, and resulting reasons that we should discount them completely. I think the only authority in this guy’s life was himself…there was no one left. The thing is, if absolute inerrancy is the prerequisite to influence, there really is no one left, so I don’t think that’s a very good option. On the other hand, it’s dangerous to run around chasing every person that puts out a popular book. Or philosophy. Or rock song. So that leaves a huge gap as to how to discern which people we let influence us, and to what degree.OH, and don’t even get me started with the guys that come up with one good idea, and then people start asking them their opinions on unrelated issues and following them all over the place like lemmings, pens ready to record their every word.
"Your method for making bubble gum retain its flavor longer has proven fantastically successful! How do you think we should end conflict in the Middle East?"
I’m pretty sure that’s how dictators are made. That’s what it comes down to—the danger really lies in the fact that too many people are content to believe whatever is thrown at them, rather than thinking critically. It’s not even that we need to be super-intellectual or psychically discerning, we just need to take our brains off auto-pilot every now & then and not be afraid to say “That’s a bunch of crap.” Or, if you want to be nicer, “I don’t agree with that,” or “That’s just not my cuppa tea.”
Obviously, since I’m spending so much time on this, it’s a reminder to myself as much as anyone. My weakness is in fearing conflict. I just want to get along and feel liked, so it’s hard to say anything contrary to folks. A small (very small) part of me is afraid I might end up deserted on an island with Joel Osteen someday, and what else would we have to do besides debate about blessings, and prosperity, and the victorious Christian life? Equally dangerous as blindly following is arbitrarily dismissing (like that one guy on that one website), so the challenge really is for us to decide why we think what we do, and to carefully consider who we allow to influence us. That’s all I’m saying…
Well OK, so I tend to be suspicious in general of anything that becomes insanely popular. Even stuff I like, once it becomes the latest greatest thing, tends to lose its luster for me.
Case in point: John Eldredge's stuff. The Sacred Romance, Journey of Desire, and Wild at Heart. I own the box set. When I read them I was bowled over. The first two--great reads, but the third changed my life entirely, and contributed a great deal to my marriage. Loved it. Then all of a sudden everyone was reading Eldredge's books, and he got to start a camp for cool wilderness spiritual experiences, and there were Wild at Heart study guides, and now there's an insanely popular women's equivalent of Wild at Heart co-written by Stasi Eldredge, which I have yet to read...the list goes on. And now I'm just sort of done with the Eldredge books. I have nothing against them. I've read the raves and pans, and overall I have no problem with the content. And since I haven't followed Eldredge in about 3 years, I really can't say what he's up to, or if acquiring adoring minions has "changed" him or whatnot. I like to think that he's still operating his wilderness camp, still loving Jesus, and being kept properly grounded by his peeps, who honestly couldn't give a crap about his literary skills and just want him to clean the bathroom or something.
Rick Warren and the Purpose Driven Everything. Changed lives. Changed churches. Is still a huge best-seller. I've never read it, more out of rebellion than anything else. Our church at the time did a several-month-long series based on the book, and I was at a time in my life where I wanted to be contrary to most things on principal alone (whereas now I have somewhat-plausible reasons for some of my contrariness), so I didn't read it. Our current church did a small-group campaign a year or so ago, where we went thru a study by Warren about living in community and all that...sort of an offshoot of the Purpose Driven Stuff. We had a good time making crass and irreverent jokes, and celebrated the day we didn't have to watch any more of the dang DVD lessons (we have since moved on to making crass & irreverent jokes while studying various books of the Bible). And again, I have nothing against Rick Warren. From everything I've read by/about him, he is a man that loves Jesus and happened to write something that hit a nerve with pretty much everyone in the country, so he ran with the opportunity. Who wouldn't? And from what I know about him, he does in fact have the peeps in his life to make him eat his vegetables, & mow the lawn, and all that.
More often there are things/people that become insanely popular before they make their way to me (as I am not exactly on the cutting edge of the cutting edge), thereby actually preventing themselves from making their way to me. Prayer of Jabez, most of Max Lucado's stuff, WWJD paraphernalia, Beth Moore, and the Furby--way too cool before I could get to them, so I just never bothered.
This is one reason I avoided boot-cut jeans for several years, by the way. They were just too cool. But then I finally tried them, and now I will wear nothing else. So there is always an exception. But I digress...
Why this strange quirk with me? There are several reasons, but since I used the word "suspicious" initially, I'll address that one particularly. Basically put, if everyone and their brother, including old ladies and entire churches, is swooning and drooling over something, I wonder what is being said that could possibly be that agreeable or palatable to that number of people. We're not talking about sliced bread or robots that vacuum, or anything else that is universally accepted to make life easier. We're talking about God and Jesus and, to an extent, theology.
I mean, the reason we have different denominations is because different groups of Protestants differ on some of the less critical (or more critical, some would say) aspects of God and Church. When you start talking about things of consequence, people get touchy. So when you say something that blankets such a large piece of the populace, like life's purpose, and they all like it...I dunno. Maybe I'm just being uppity or something, but I wonder if you're saying anything truly groundbreaking or substantial. I know, I know--please don't throw rocks at me.
It could be from my own experiences...I say something seemingly-harmless like "I like to express my worship by playing drums," and I get a spectrum of responses ranging from "Praise God, that's wonderful!" to "Um, can you tone it down a bit?" to "Drums are loud and disrespectful" (OK the last one has never been said directly to me...it was relayed to me apologetically, secondhand). So when someone talks about the Meaning of Life, which is way more controversial than drums, and everyone jumps on the bandwagon, it makes me think they must have said something like "Life is about breathing. And living. And Jesus." All true, nothing disputable (at least within Christian circles), but more or less incomplete. Or lacking in explanation.
And like I said, I haven't read Warren's book, so I don't know what he actually wrote. I do know lots of people who have loved his book, and I could be entirely wrong in my cynicism. This is just my knee-jerk reaction to all the hype.
Go to Part II