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Glass houses have many ways of reflecting ourselves upon the surface.When we look at ourselves individually what do we see?Who do we see?Why do we see ourselves in that light,or dark.Facing ones demons is an individual battle.Throughout both My relationship & Leah's relationship with Tamra,be both made very thoughtful attempts to show Tamra she could be loved for who she is.She was very deserving of being being loved,knowing a love like that which both myself & Leah offered her.
Leah has said to me time &nd time again I offered her every part of me because that's the type of person I am.I never hid myself from her,I never lied to her,the one time I 'cheated' on her early in our relationship I made a decision when she wanted me back not to ever repeat the same mistake.I offered tamra a chance to see within herself a value she could not see within herself.I often told her if she could see herself as I saw her she would know,& be able to see the power of two was easier to have on your side then to feel alone in this world.All she needed to do was open her heart.I loved the person who I knew as tamra.To this day though,I can't find reason to trust anymore.Which is the reason I decided,like Cathy,right after wards that voicing with anyone was going to be essential.Which is why,I gave tamra/sara both th opportunity to voice with me & prove any allegations as false.Goddess knows I wish this would happen because if she was a woman,I would do exactly as I have & not give up on her.Not like she gave up on herself.
Its important to note here, sure, you can't make someone love you.If you don't really love someone romantically,you should never enter into such a relationship & lead someone on either. Over the years Tamra was consistent with both myself & Leah in that she wanted the whole deal to be thought of as real.
If I have said it one time,i have said it one hundred times, I decide who is worthy to have the love I have to offer.I don't care who you say you are,where you say you are from, and any of the other information.All I care about is your gender.This shows me a true respect level for my gender preference as it is called.I don't prefer women,I was born to love women.It is not something I have a choice in.Unless of course if you are a guy who really enjoys having a woman vomit on you every time you touch her.Which is rather sick and masochistic if you ask me.
The thing with this situation & how the events have lead to this final chapter only shows there are reasons why things follow along a path.To come to a final outcome.Where as Cathy at least notes the evidence may or may not be seen as circumstantial,the reason for her not making issue of the chat back in 2003 could have & would have been held up as something edited or fabricated.In light of it now,coupled with the voice evidence we have on Tamra & lack of verbalization from Sara would only cause one to logically think the worst case scenario.Again,thus the reason to give the opportunity.
A while back,Tamra made Leah promise never to chat with Cathy.Had Leah ever chatted with Cathy,she would poison their relationship.One day Cathy came to Leah.Leah took as being a situation where Tamra opened the door.Leah not being afraid to walk through doors took advantage of that.She stepped through & despite any past feelings about Cathy, they chatted.Leah offered Cathy an opportunity to change any opinions she may have had about her.Cathy did so. Courageously,& with class.She may have been talking 'smack' behind her back but,Cathy left all the crap off of Leah's doorstep.Both Leah & I developed a new sense of respect for Cathy as a woman.All the while Tamra was calling Leah a "hottie" in a vindictive & spiteful manner.Leah nor myself ever was,nor infiltrated the hotties.Simply sat on the outside looking in.
I respect Cathy's need for voice verification in this fact.She has a fiance'.Can you not imagine what sort of predicament this might entail for a woman who is in her position.The imagine it for a woman who is completely lesbian in order to understand how it affects us.So if you are a guy,come clean.Give us that much.

Saturday August 30, 2008 - 12:57pm (CDT)

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On a final note (yes, its long-winded Cathy) I wish, for the sake of it being just that, a wish, that none of this was true. That tamra was a real woman, at least I would have my best friend back. Or at least someone I viewed as my best friend. This probably is the hardest part of it all. I have no one to talk to like I talked to her/him/it. I shared things with this person on many levels. From daily life, to intimate things. I wonder why sara that you won't step up and accept my challenge to vindicate yourself. I am not a heartless bitch here. If you would do this I would gladly come on and correct any and all information with an apology like I did for Cathy. It's like this, Tamra hasnt been online since she wrote that last blast. If it was not true, she would be furiously going after people left and right. This much I know to be truth about her patterns and behaviors. Those very patterns and behaviors are exactly what I pointed out to Tamra on numerous occasions would be part of her undoing. Sara, instead of going after Cathy with everything because you think she is doubtful, recognize one thing she said, she at least supports the consideration. The idea had been part of a conversation which took place between her and Leah long before any of this started to surface. Contrary to your offliners this morning, I did not let myself get lead into anything. I have taken into consideration all the evidence presented. I posted my comment as an opportunity for you to prove me wrong. I used to always tell tamra, prove me wrong. Do something out of the ordinary pattern and behavior. If you still respect me as a person at least give me that. I beg you, prove me wrong.

Saturday August 30, 2008 - 01:23pm (CDT)

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Even though I never knew sara well at all, one just needs to look at her profile to see what kind of person she is. She feels the need to imitate, insult, obsess so frequently because nobody even looks in her direction. When Cathy asked her to please go her own way so they could both be happy and peaceful, sara instead chose to go on her sad little crusade.

When Maggi thought that Cathy was tami, sara was all for Maggi finding out the truth, believing Maggi deserved to know. Now that evidence has come into light saying sara might be tami, sara has suddenly lost respect for Maggi. Either Maggi deserves the truth or doesn't sara.

Maybe if sara could just move on, this would be a much happier place. Everybody could be friends with everybody else. As it stands sara keeps hurting people, and causing drama. As I told someone recently, there is a point where you need to decide to stand up for your friend against such a person as sara, or you risk losing them. If sara behaved like a normal person, dropping the obsession and drama, she could be friends with everybody and anybody. But she chooses instead to spend her time here bringing others down.

So here is what I have to say to you, sara/dunsel/destinyp/tami?. Maggi does deserve to know the truth, which is why Cathy queitly provided what she needed. So I would suggest you do the same. Your laptop may be broken but I doubt your phone is. And please, for the sake of the people around you, just drop your obsession with Cathy, the past, Daniel, and whoever else you try to bring down.

You breed a horrible atmosphere that sucks people in. Nice, classy people have resorted to name calling, and your whole page has become a homage/dig to Cathy. It's just sad when you so easily just spend time with "real" friends that you brag so much about. I mean if they really exist then I'm sure they would be much happier with a sara page. No?

Saturday August 30, 2008 - 01:14pm (PDT)

Do you care to offer evidence to the contrary here on the aformentioned chat which took place between Jez and Tami back in 2003 where Tami admits to being sara?

tami's confession
Tuesday, October 7, 2003 11:30 PM
From:


jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:16:48 PM): I want you out of Cathy's life,

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:17:02 PM): fuck off!

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:17:48 PM): Defensive much? Listen ok, you may have Cathy fooled partly, but
you do not fool me. I am the real, genuine article, and Cathy is my soulmate. You need to just crawl back in the
hole you came out of and leave us alone.

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:18:21 PM): You know, if anyone is the phony here it is you bitch. Why are you so insecure? Why do you fear me so much? hmmm? I think I can guess. smiles.

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:18:56 PM): Me fear you? Please! Just admit you are someone who has been around my Cathy, and go on your way whore....

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:19:06 PM): I have nothing to prove to you, pain slut.

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:20:23 PM): Pain slut? and you would know that how...?

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:17:02 PM): Cathy told me, and btw she hates that about you...lol.

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:21:24 PM): Oh really?

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:21:50 PM):

jezebel_astarte_sophia : Cathy, point blank tell me: did you tell this bitch I was a pain
slut?
cathyraves (10/07/2003 11:22:14 PM): I promise you I did not. Why would I share that with anyone I barely know?
jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:23:11 PM): smiles

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:23:20 PM): you see? sloppy, very sloppy bitch. Your game is over. Go play with
someone else's gf,so who were you before? cmon, your secret is out, just come clean....lol.

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:24:07 PM): None of your business if I was now is it? Go fuck yourself. Besides, Cathy will
never want you over me...lol.

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:25:09 PM): smiles, think again loser, she is about to give you the boot, she
just told me. :-*

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:25:34 PM):aw cmon sara, confession is good for the soul, don't you know that?

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:25:45 PM): I am NOT SARA!!!!

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:26:34 PM): hmmmmmm did I hit a nerve?

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:27:13 PM): ok fine jez, you win, but I will have her back. If you fucking tell her I will
ruin you for good, trust me! Tell her anything, show her anything, and I will make you sorry bitch, got it? Mark my
words!!!! I will promise to leave you two be.. for now... as long as you don't tell her, deal?

jezebel_astarte_sophia (10/07/2003 11:27:55 PM): just stay away from her, and we will not have a problem, now
disappear!

and then she logged out,

I must admit, I am more then a bit curious about this on many levels. Certainly we can look at this as allegations. Allegations based on an actual chat which took place where there are 'threats' that if the information got out to Cathy, there would be repercussions.

We can't forget if I had wanted to, I could have easily used recent chats to make a case against one claiming to be another persons ID. Until, on the 12th day of August 2008, a day which will live in infamy amongst some, a week which as GCV coined as "The week that Rocked Yahoo", a voice was heard during a chat conference which caused the person known as Tamra tami_bunny to have accidentally outted herself as a male.

It does raise the question though, if GCV was made aware of this chat, and if so, why weren't any actions taken against the person known as sara_astraea. Don't get me wrong, I am not pointing fingers, but it does make me wonder why this particular chat was not taken into consideration when Tamra was getting GCV to play along with her game of trying to convince me they were one and the same.

Since the voice was heard, my suspicions of GCV and Tamra being the same were cast aside. Now new evidence has been presented to the 'grande jury'. The public can be the jury. Until I hear the single piece of evidence to refut these 'allegations' of this chat, or the threats offered within the content of the chats, I will have to be best armed with the facts as they have been presented.

"tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:27:13 PM): ok fine jez, you win, but I will have her back. If you fucking tell her I will
ruin you for good, trust me! Tell her anything, show her anything, and I will make you sorry bitch, got it? Mark my
words!!!! I will promise to leave you two be.. for now... as long as you don't tell her, deal?"

Yes, anyone can come back to me and say these chats were edited. On the contrary, I wish I could say they were.

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:27:13 PM): "If you fucking tell her I will ruin you for good, trust me!

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:27:13 PM): "Tell her anything, show her anything, and I will make you sorry bitch, got it? Mark my
words!!!! "

tami_bunny (10/07/2003 11:27:13 PM): "I will promise to leave you two be.. for now... as long as you don't tell her, deal?"


Now this entire conversation sounds just like Tamra. What amazes me is that she admitted to being sara when Jez called out on it. SO I will say the exact same thign I have listed on my blog. The only way this evidence can be refuted is for someone to step up to the mic and talk on voice so that the evidence can be considered as plausible when it comes to deniability.

Do I want to believe this? Did I want to believe my suspicions over the years about Tamra being a guy were me over-thinking. I wonder why others didn't act on this though,

There are even accusations that I am acting in a cowardly fashion for not 'going after' this person. I didn't even go after GCV as has been stated. I didn't post the chats which took place which lead us to this current state of affairs. I could have. I even gave her opportunity to recant her statements, I even pointed out she was being spoon-fed information. She presented me with the chats which took place between her and Tamra during her attempt to prove she was Tamra. The evidence as far as I can tell minus a few second delay between copying and pasting looks to lend credance to GCV's claim she is not Tamra. The perverbial "icing on the cake" should have been the voice of Tamra in that chat.

It took some convincing to get GCV to offer full disclosure of those chats, eventually, the chats were provided and removed all doubt. Now lets move to the current evidence...an admitting by Tamra, she is sara.

Several people waiting patiently by the way-side to see if I am going to move on this. Forgetting that I don't handle business the way others want me to. I handle business with logic, and evidence and well-though out convictions. Otherwise why table the evidence if there is nothing to back it up.

Several yahoo users, some anonymous, others not have come forward with information. Leading me to ascertaining certain conclusions. Let's see if any of these other clues pan out. Until then I say this to the person whom this directly affect;

Ms Sara Astarte Ishtar/slash girl/Astraea;
How do you plea to this latest accusation?
If you plea not guilty, then will you stand up before those involved and voice to prove you are not, at the very least, male?
One accusation leads directly into another. If you are not tami, then voicing will prove you are not male. Which will drop the entire case being built. Secondly, if you do not wish to voice online, will you be willing to use my phone number which I gave you to at least prove to me that you are not tami. It's simple Sara. I am giving you the same opportunity I gave to GCV during her attempts to convince me she was Tamra a chance to rectify the situation she was building up at the urging of Tamra. A chance for redemption as it were. If this is not taken as an opportunity for as such, then the consequences and results of this will cause many people to doubt, or question further.

As I have said many times, I don't care what handles you go by, what things you put on your 360's and profiles, what pictures you use, where you say you live, what you say you do, what matters most to me is if you are female or male. Not that I can not accept a male, but it is always nice to know what gender I am speaking with.

On another level, it brings many of my current range of feelings to a head. Disappointment in the person, disappointment in the accusations thrown at me as a way to make me a scapegoat for the entire 5 years of lies which were tabled and forgiven repeticiously.

Bear in mind Ms Sara, I will so exactly like I did with GCV and apologize if the evidence is indeed refutable by means of you presenting yourself in a voice format. At this stage with most of my online friends, I find that this is the best way to deal with those who say "I am me", "I am real", "I am a woman." NO offense need be taken. Simply put up or shut up...step up to the mic, or better yet, the phone.

Blog Entry: "You called down the thunder, deal with it Bitch!"

cate you are the typical conspiracy theorist. You will always look for the simple answer. When in fact, you have been duped once again. It's actually fun to watch you grasp at straws.

Tuesday August 12, 2008 - 08:57pm (EDT)

log from 08/11/08

Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:16 AM): you broke our agreement
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:22 AM): I knew you woudl say that---
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:26 AM): you sent her the photos as tami
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:30 AM): but you did
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:32 AM): YOU fucked up
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:33 AM): NOT ME
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:35 AM): yes!
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:38 AM): YOU SENT THEM TO HER
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:41 AM): no
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:44 AM): I said I sent them to cathy
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:45 AM): you fucked it up
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:48 AM): OU FUCKED UP
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:50 AM): not me
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:52 AM): by telling her you sent to cathy
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:49:54 AM): which you didnt
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:49:55 AM): I said I sent them to cathy
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:50:01 AM): youre losing the plot bitch
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:02 AM): why woudl I send photos of randy to TAMI?
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:04 AM): PRAY TELL
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:05 AM): WHY?
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:08 AM): why woudl I do that
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:11 AM): THINK TAMI
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:50:16 AM): idk but you did
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:21 AM): I SENT THEM TO YOU
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:23 AM): YOU
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:29 AM): you turned around and sent them to HER
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:50:32 AM): but you know that i sent them to her as tam
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:32 AM): and now
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:34 AM): we go into the
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:50:34 AM): cmon leah
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:50:37 AM): BUT I AM NOT TAMI
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:51:06 AM): I am .. but not to amy
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:51:12 AM): why did you fucking do this
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:51:14 AM): ?
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:51:36 AM): yes i know shes reece
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:51:44 AM): but that doesnt mean she knows I am fucking tami!
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:52:22 AM): Gawd
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:52:32 AM): Im not even gonna argue with you about this
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:52:36 AM): you blew it, its done Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:52:40 AM): You told me she did. but still....if she had NOT known you were tami, then why would you be so careless as to send her pics under tamis EMAIL---still woudl not have explained later as to why I woudl send randys pics to TAMI
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:52:43 AM): THINK TAMI
Cathy S. (8/11/2008 2:52:50 AM): Im gonna just get fucked up
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:52:57 AM): and you know what---I knew the minute she said tht how you were gonna play this
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:53:04 AM): that you would use this as a way to say I FUCKED UP
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:53:07 AM): you fucked up TAMRA
Leah Dominique (8/11/2008 2:53:09 AM): not ME

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As usual cate you are a day late and a dollar short... all you have shown here is exactly what I stated in my comment on your last blog... this is Cathy trying to be nice for someone and ending up caught in their twisted little game...

Tuesday August 12, 2008 - 07:52pm (AKDT)

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I was chatting with Leah/Maggi tonight and she wanted me to let you know that (a) she heard Tami's voice and Tami is a guy, and (b) Cathy and Tami are two seperate people (Cathy is indeed a woman)... and to ask you to stop slamming Cathy. Any questions, ask Maggi.... mmkay?

Tuesday August 12, 2008 - 09:06pm (PDT)

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So, Cathy was being a poser to trick a poser. ROFLMFAO!!!
The parade of lies never stop where you are concern. Either you are Tami which makes you a lying sack of pig-manure (Don't get all indignant about the language, You started that earlier when you loosed Jenna to do your dirty work); OR you were a lying sack of pig-manure when talking to Leah/Maggie. Either way your explanations are worthless.
And, if you were outting Mag/leah it should have been done when she popped up as Goddess Poizonality/BBBBethany. You had no objections to that charade, because it furthered your sick little game. So, save the wounded do-gooder impersonation. It's gotten threadbare from overuse.

Wednesday August 13, 2008 - 03:34am (EDT)

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cate, keep acting as you do. You merely illustrate to the whole of yahoo exactly what you are: a bitter, lonely nosybody who would rather act publically self-righteous, rather than reach any level of understanding. Is it that boring being Jim Quinn?

Wednesday August 13, 2008 - 07:53am (EDT)

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"Is it that boring being Jim Quinn?"

Is it fun being a feckless, gormless git, Catty? I was going to say it was as boring as you must be when you are lil Brian. But that isn't an apt analogy; since you stand a reasonable chance of really being Bri. It does show that you are just as clueless as you accuse me of being. For all skulking in false identies to gather secrets, you have no clue who I really am. No idea of what I do, or don't know about you. Keep taking shots in the take bud.

Wednesday August 13, 2008 - 10:07am (EDT)